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Tlester3672
on March 20, 2015 at 9:33 am
A question about breaking 80. When talking about playing up to get the feel of breaking 80 first before moving back to my regular tees – what if there is nearly a 1000 yard difference in distance between the 2 sets of tees. Go ahead and still play up once?
Absolutely move up. We don’t care if it’s 1500 or 2000 yards shorter. If you play from 7000 yards, play a round from the forward tees. You might not hit the same clubs (i.e. driver or 3W) off the majority of the tees, but you’ll shoot a lower score and be a bit more “comfortable” if you arrive at the 18th tee needing bogey or better to break 80 for the first time… because it won’t be the first time! Just the first time from those tees, which is easier if, as we said in the book, you’ve already done it.
Move up. You’ll get a few funny looks from some people, perhaps. Some might even assume your drive landed on the tee you’re playing. But so what? The golf will be fun, you’ll hit more greens, and you’ll learn a little bit about shooting a lower score!
Agreed. I friend of mine came up with the term pre-setting. If facing a pressure putt or shot. Go through your normal routine get yourself into position to hit the shot or putt get a feel for the experience and environment paying close attention to wind, how your body feels etc then step away.
What this does is it lets you feel whats its like to be in that pressure situation before. So your prepared when it counts that you have been through this before and you can handle this type of feeling.
Its game experience.
In the GamePlan section, you guys illustrate a lot of examples of typical par-4 holes
I have a question regarding par-3s, which you kind of address toward the end of the book…
So does it basically mean to try to adjust my shot zone to the center of the green most of the time… or would the trouble and their buffer zones potentially change that, or do the same rules apply for all approach shots in general…
The same rules apply to par threes: choose the club and target that leads to the lightest possible Shot Zone.
If there’s water or OB to the left, it may mean aiming at the right edge of the green. If there’s trouble short, it may mean taking an extra club or two and playing for the back fringe.
Though the green is lightly shaded (or white), the rough (medium or light shades) are much lighter than OB, water, bunkers, and any associated Penalty Buffers.
Another question, I also have a comment I’ll share at the end.
My question is: the mind your gaps chapter 7, you guys talk about using a full, three quarter feeling, half swing and quarter swing, with your 3 or 4 wedges… can you do this with all of your irons at least as a drill? Or do you recommend just the wedges?
My comment: the drill in chapter 14 on practicing keeping your line with an aluminum yardstick works really well, it’s great feedback, I found if I lifted my head I’d pull the putts, if I moved my lower body much I’d push it… If I kept both relatively quiet I could easily get it to the end (my metal ruler is 48 inches however)
I am at a loss to quantify allowance for wind. How do we get from mph to %? Sounds good, but help or hurt % may not translate without a jillion experiences. Will mph affect normally vary from shorter irons to longer clubs instead of simplifying as +1 (10 yds.)for 10 mph, as an example?
On approach shots (say pin@ 130yds out to the middle of a flat green from a flat fairway lie), how do yo account for ball roll in the green. Do you land the ball the full distance to the pin and go beyond the pin or land the ball short planning the roll will get you closer to the pin. Same thought goes for wedge shots around the green. Thanks Guys !!!
Tcr925@comcast.net
on September 2, 2015 at 12:33 pm
I don’t see the answer to my question regarding allowance for wind. % allowance based on what? My normal allowance is 1 club (10 yards) for each 10 mph head wind. How does % get considered?
I am not long off the tee and have shots 175-200 into greens. If the greens are fronted on both sides by bunkers is it better to be safe and lie up just short of the bunkers? Especially since the odds of being in one are pretty good and that adds SVA?
Page 33, I don’t get the “using the ground to catapult the club downward and forward.” Is there a video or picture illustration pointing to how this is triggered/getting done?
Love the book and lots of the ideas. Do you have a PDF that summarizes the Full Swing Practice? Short Game Practice? Putting Practice?
Just something short to take to the driving range would be great.
Thanks again for all the great tips.
#5 – Use The Ground – I am reading this section, and at the bottom of page 33, you talk about GRF and pushing against the ground. I trying to understand this a bit more…. Pushing against the ground. Is there a video that demonstrates this concept? Is this the same as shifting the weight forward? I assume this may be pushing from the right inside foot, right?I don’t to miss this since it is essential. Thanks for your help.
We’ve posted a few drills, often in the form of a YouTube video, but honestly the demand has not been there for some of the drills, so we haven’t done as many as we had anticipated. If there are specific areas you’d like to see drills for, Jeff, we’d love to hear them.
What a fantastic book, it really has got me thinking differently about how to play the game. One quick question relating to adjusting for wind. you discussed a 5% and 20% wind – what does that equate to in miles per hour? is a 5% wind simply a 5mph wind?
Thanks,
Chris
p.28, under “Launch It” chapter, “modify your stance to a bit more closed.” I have been doing the following; can you tell me if I am doing it correctly?
* Start where I believe I would line up parallel to the line I intend to start the ball, same idea I have in mind when I hit an iron, but without flaring my feet.
* Drop my right foot (I’m right handed) back so that the toes are lined up with the middle of my left foot (my shoes are size 8.5, not sure if that’s relevant, but I don’t have overly big or overly small feet).
* Now I flare my feet as appropriate.
Is this achieving what I should be doing? If not, what am I missing? I did some googling (both on its own and a search focusing on TST) but I think I might be unclear on what a closed stance actually is.
Given that my clubhead speed is mid-90s and I am not getting many rounds with a driver average over 205, I am of the belief I’m doing something wrong, as I think is described in the chapter.
justinepsteinintl@gmail.com
on July 5, 2020 at 10:40 am
1. For the 4-8-12 foot putting drill. If you miss both putts at 8 foot or all three at 12 feet, do you go back to the 4 footer or stay with the length you missed? 2. Also, the book mentions info on chipping technique. Is that still in the site? Thanks.
Hi there from Perth Western Australia – love the book, thanks. Have been in Trackman and done most of my shot zones
Is there an app or software you would recommend for course mapping. Been trying to use Golfshot and Google Earth and it ain’t easy
Cheers
Brad
Course mapping, to be honest, we generally do in our minds. If there are some tricky spots where you want to measure, even Google Maps lets you measure distances. For example, the distances between bunkers or water hazards may be of use, etc.
But, basically, unless we built a custom app to measure Shot Zones and let you overlay them over auto-colored “areas” of the golf course, it’s basically just doing it quickly by eye or spending a little time and measuring some things on a computer.
Last thing: some students will print out holes or areas of holes to scale, and that makes it pretty simple to “measure” on the fly.
Received the book yesterday and just finished it today. Excellent read. You mentioned in it you would have drill son here for full swing practice. Where are they located?
Many were lost when the PureStrike site went away. If you look at the reply just above yours, you’ll see some URLs to our individual YouTube channels, as well as this too: https://golfevolution.com/instruction/30-day-plan/.
Lowest Score Wins is not your classic golf book. It is the first of its kind. It provides a complete roadmap for golfers and explains, through a combination of techniques, stats, and strategies, how to shoot lower scores immediately.
Lowest Score Wins is comprised of three main sections. Since advancing the ball solidly is such a huge factor in shooting lower scores, the first section addresses simple techniques to improve mechanics quickly. The latter sections of the book show golfers exactly how to build their own PracticePlan and GamePlan. It combines rich statistical analysis and strategies to explain exactly where golfers should spend their valuable practice time (and why), what pitfalls to avoid, and how to attack any golf course with a process called Decision Mapping. These show you how to take advantage of skills you ALREADY possess.
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A question about breaking 80. When talking about playing up to get the feel of breaking 80 first before moving back to my regular tees – what if there is nearly a 1000 yard difference in distance between the 2 sets of tees. Go ahead and still play up once?
Tlester, thanks for writing in.
Absolutely move up. We don’t care if it’s 1500 or 2000 yards shorter. If you play from 7000 yards, play a round from the forward tees. You might not hit the same clubs (i.e. driver or 3W) off the majority of the tees, but you’ll shoot a lower score and be a bit more “comfortable” if you arrive at the 18th tee needing bogey or better to break 80 for the first time… because it won’t be the first time! Just the first time from those tees, which is easier if, as we said in the book, you’ve already done it.
Move up. You’ll get a few funny looks from some people, perhaps. Some might even assume your drive landed on the tee you’re playing. But so what? The golf will be fun, you’ll hit more greens, and you’ll learn a little bit about shooting a lower score!
Agreed. I friend of mine came up with the term pre-setting. If facing a pressure putt or shot. Go through your normal routine get yourself into position to hit the shot or putt get a feel for the experience and environment paying close attention to wind, how your body feels etc then step away.
What this does is it lets you feel whats its like to be in that pressure situation before. So your prepared when it counts that you have been through this before and you can handle this type of feeling.
Its game experience.
Hi Guys,
In the GamePlan section, you guys illustrate a lot of examples of typical par-4 holes
I have a question regarding par-3s, which you kind of address toward the end of the book…
So does it basically mean to try to adjust my shot zone to the center of the green most of the time… or would the trouble and their buffer zones potentially change that, or do the same rules apply for all approach shots in general…
Thanks for writing, Shane.
The same rules apply to par threes: choose the club and target that leads to the lightest possible Shot Zone.
If there’s water or OB to the left, it may mean aiming at the right edge of the green. If there’s trouble short, it may mean taking an extra club or two and playing for the back fringe.
Though the green is lightly shaded (or white), the rough (medium or light shades) are much lighter than OB, water, bunkers, and any associated Penalty Buffers.
Hi Guys,
Another question, I also have a comment I’ll share at the end.
My question is: the mind your gaps chapter 7, you guys talk about using a full, three quarter feeling, half swing and quarter swing, with your 3 or 4 wedges… can you do this with all of your irons at least as a drill? Or do you recommend just the wedges?
My comment: the drill in chapter 14 on practicing keeping your line with an aluminum yardstick works really well, it’s great feedback, I found if I lifted my head I’d pull the putts, if I moved my lower body much I’d push it… If I kept both relatively quiet I could easily get it to the end (my metal ruler is 48 inches however)
I am at a loss to quantify allowance for wind. How do we get from mph to %? Sounds good, but help or hurt % may not translate without a jillion experiences. Will mph affect normally vary from shorter irons to longer clubs instead of simplifying as +1 (10 yds.)for 10 mph, as an example?
On approach shots (say pin@ 130yds out to the middle of a flat green from a flat fairway lie), how do yo account for ball roll in the green. Do you land the ball the full distance to the pin and go beyond the pin or land the ball short planning the roll will get you closer to the pin. Same thought goes for wedge shots around the green. Thanks Guys !!!
I don’t see the answer to my question regarding allowance for wind. % allowance based on what? My normal allowance is 1 club (10 yards) for each 10 mph head wind. How does % get considered?
Is there an answer to adjustment for wind? % of what? Distance? Wind?
Still interested in quantifying % allowance for wind (1-19-16) on page 213.
% of what?
Did I miss the explanation over the last several months?
I am not long off the tee and have shots 175-200 into greens. If the greens are fronted on both sides by bunkers is it better to be safe and lie up just short of the bunkers? Especially since the odds of being in one are pretty good and that adds SVA?
Page 33, I don’t get the “using the ground to catapult the club downward and forward.” Is there a video or picture illustration pointing to how this is triggered/getting done?
Love the book and lots of the ideas. Do you have a PDF that summarizes the Full Swing Practice? Short Game Practice? Putting Practice?
Just something short to take to the driving range would be great.
Thanks again for all the great tips.
Since the Casio camera’s you mentioned in the book are no longer produced, I’d like to know what you will upgrade to when the time comes?
Thanks,
Joe Bass
#5 – Use The Ground – I am reading this section, and at the bottom of page 33, you talk about GRF and pushing against the ground. I trying to understand this a bit more…. Pushing against the ground. Is there a video that demonstrates this concept? Is this the same as shifting the weight forward? I assume this may be pushing from the right inside foot, right?I don’t to miss this since it is essential. Thanks for your help.
Great book.
However, it indicates in some parts (page 102 for example) that specific drills are available at the web site. I didn’t see any????
Thanks.
We’ve posted a few drills, often in the form of a YouTube video, but honestly the demand has not been there for some of the drills, so we haven’t done as many as we had anticipated. If there are specific areas you’d like to see drills for, Jeff, we’d love to hear them.
I bought a book a week ago but can’t find a receipt. Can you send me another receipt?
pettym@wabash.edu is my email address.
Thank you.
Mac Petty
Hi guys,
What a fantastic book, it really has got me thinking differently about how to play the game. One quick question relating to adjusting for wind. you discussed a 5% and 20% wind – what does that equate to in miles per hour? is a 5% wind simply a 5mph wind?
Thanks,
Chris
p.28, under “Launch It” chapter, “modify your stance to a bit more closed.” I have been doing the following; can you tell me if I am doing it correctly?
* Start where I believe I would line up parallel to the line I intend to start the ball, same idea I have in mind when I hit an iron, but without flaring my feet.
* Drop my right foot (I’m right handed) back so that the toes are lined up with the middle of my left foot (my shoes are size 8.5, not sure if that’s relevant, but I don’t have overly big or overly small feet).
* Now I flare my feet as appropriate.
Is this achieving what I should be doing? If not, what am I missing? I did some googling (both on its own and a search focusing on TST) but I think I might be unclear on what a closed stance actually is.
Given that my clubhead speed is mid-90s and I am not getting many rounds with a driver average over 205, I am of the belief I’m doing something wrong, as I think is described in the chapter.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
1. For the 4-8-12 foot putting drill. If you miss both putts at 8 foot or all three at 12 feet, do you go back to the 4 footer or stay with the length you missed? 2. Also, the book mentions info on chipping technique. Is that still in the site? Thanks.
Justin, if you miss both at 8 feet, you move back to four feet. If you miss all three at 12 feet, you move up to eight feet.
Re Strokes Gained Putting worksheet – I have converted the mac file into windows excel, leet me know if you want it to post on the site.
Hi there from Perth Western Australia – love the book, thanks. Have been in Trackman and done most of my shot zones
Is there an app or software you would recommend for course mapping. Been trying to use Golfshot and Google Earth and it ain’t easy
Cheers
Brad
Hi Brad, thanks for your interest and question.
Course mapping, to be honest, we generally do in our minds. If there are some tricky spots where you want to measure, even Google Maps lets you measure distances. For example, the distances between bunkers or water hazards may be of use, etc.
But, basically, unless we built a custom app to measure Shot Zones and let you overlay them over auto-colored “areas” of the golf course, it’s basically just doing it quickly by eye or spending a little time and measuring some things on a computer.
Last thing: some students will print out holes or areas of holes to scale, and that makes it pretty simple to “measure” on the fly.
Just got the book and read references to http://purestrike5sk.com. Is this URL still working? I could not get there.
The book was released 11 years ago, so unfortunately, that site was closed a few years ago. You can find some of the videos on my YouTube channel (https://youtube.com/iacas) and the Golf Evolution channel (https://www.youtube.com/thegolfevolution).
Received the book yesterday and just finished it today. Excellent read. You mentioned in it you would have drill son here for full swing practice. Where are they located?
Many were lost when the PureStrike site went away. If you look at the reply just above yours, you’ll see some URLs to our individual YouTube channels, as well as this too: https://golfevolution.com/instruction/30-day-plan/.